Many of us have seen geo-art created using puzzle caches and there are some out there that are made of whereigoes as well. But recently, cachers have been working to make geo-art using adventure labs. Join me as I talk to fellow geocacher, Dodie Chandler, about her push organize and create adventure lab geo-arts in all 50 states.
Sources and Related Material
– 50 State Lab Art Project (Facebook Group)
– ADVENUTRE LABS GEOART – NORTH AMERICA (Map)
– Adventure Lab Creators Help Pages (Geocaching.com)
– Adventure Lab Builder
You can contact Dodie Chandler on Facebook
Transcript
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Amie–shadowdragn1: Hi everybody. Amie, Shadowdragn1 here and with me today is fellow Geocacher Dodie, and we’re gonna talk about the 50 states lab geo art that’s going on right now. But first I’d like to ask my guest, how did you get started Geocaching?
Dodie: It was after my mother’s death. A friend of mine, um, she passed away at Christmas time, so they just, um. me out geocaching. I was hooked from day one. That was like in 2006.
Amie–shadowdragn1: So the 50 states lab art, you’ve been sort of heading this whole thing. Can you tell us how this got started?
Dodie: Um, it was back when, um. A friend of mine up in the, um, new England states had done, um, I think Delaware, I don’t even remember where that started, but her name was Maria. um, I asked her, I told her I wanted to do one for Tennessee, which that’s where I live. [00:02:00] And uh, she sent me, um. The link to, to learn how to create the art. So we just started out with Tennessee then we decided we’d do Georgia and then we’d do Florida. And then it just kind of hit me, wow, why don’t we do one in every state? So, uh, ’cause by then New England, the New England states, were starting to work on, uh, some up in their area.
And then I just, I don’t know, it was just one of those things that you just decide you’re gonna do and. Um, I had worked on the, I was actually, I’m the only surviving administrator from the 50 state star, so probably where that from. And then I just decided we needed to have a lab art in each state.
Amie–shadowdragn1: so when you guys are figuring out these lab arts, how are you deciding where to place them?
Dodie: Well, our whole goal is to, [00:03:00] uh, welcome, welcome you into the states, and the best way to welcome you is to stop at a rest area or a welcome center coming into the States. So we try to put them somewhere close to a state line. Um, hoping that people just it off and, it’s on every interstate coming into that state. So. I think that’d be great, but right now I can’t take on anything more than just that one state. But there’s other people that, um, like Louisiana wanted theirs in the middle of the state, and if we have someone on the ground there that wants to recruit, um, labs and whatnot, then we pretty much let them decide. Um, you know, like Alabama, we put one. 10, we wanted to go all the way across I 10, but that didn’t end up happening that way. but someone’s putting one at the top of Alabama coming in that way, so [00:04:00] works for me.
Amie–shadowdragn1: How do you decide which state line to set it out?
Dodie: Yesterday, uh, we’re gonna start working on Indiana and I just looked up the welcome centers ’cause we don’t really have anyone on the ground there. and you just post in the, in the Facebook pages and I just looked for welcome centers, within the state. And then I look and see whichever one seems to be a major interstate, like 75 or 40. 80 is a, is a toll. So. We, I personally would not want one on at all. so it seemed like the one, uh, coming outta Louisville, Kentucky 65 was the closest I could get to a state line.
So that’s, pretty much where that one’s gonna be now.
Mike wanted his in Joplin and then Sheila wanted theirs in, uh, [00:05:00] and I think she. They had talked about where they wanted it and they’ve created, um, another art, um, think going across 40. So it looks like they’re kind of working on different entrances too.
Amie–shadowdragn1: So once you decide which visitor center it’s gonna go at, how do you pick all the locations for the main pin and then the lab locations?
Dodie: uh, I build the art, uh, within a program, and then, um, after that and you center it. And then, uh, after that I just line the stages up and, and I’m the one that drops all those pens.
And, only one other time, um, I, I’m usually the one that gives out the coordinates just because we’ve seem to have. Um, critiqued a way to get those coordinates to everyone. When you, you want to, when you want to [00:06:00] build your lab, you give us a theme, and then as soon as you give a theme, then we post it within the group with your name and like, let’s just say we’re working on Indiana.
We would tell you Indiana oh one, and then whatever theme you created, and we would give you your art chords, and then right below it, we would give you your stages. you just follow those and build your art and no one goes live until, um, we’re all ready. So we usually, historically we’ve been able to get those up in about two weeks.
Um, I was traveling a lot, uh, the last month, month, two months. So, um, we didn’t get those up quite as quick. But normally if I’m at home, We can get ’em up in a week and a half to two weeks, as long as we can get enough credits.
Amie–shadowdragn1: Have you had any trouble finding people to participate?
Dodie: Um, you know, sometimes [00:07:00] I think Alabama, we struggled with the hardest.
Amie–shadowdragn1: Um, and a lot of our folks are out of credits, so I’m not sure how fast Indiana’s gonna go. Um, and you know, like there, you know, people that get credits in March. Rick Watts helps me do a lot. And then Diane Freeman from, uh, I think she’s from North Carolina. Rick is from West Virginia. So, you know, he has a lot of people that he knows. Uh, I have a lot of people I know and Diana does. Um, preferably we would like someone from that state, you know, to get local people to do their own state. I mean, we, we by no means want to take that away from. I mean, we only fill in when we need to, but there’s a, there’s a pretty good group now. I think there’s over 140 people in that. And, uh, we say we’re getting ready to build a [00:08:00] state, then, um, if they wanna give a credit, they just step up and say they wanna give a credit. And it doesn’t matter where you’re from, me personally, I, it doesn’t matter to me.
This is all done through a Facebook group, right?
Dodie: It is, and it’s private. And the reason it’s private because, um, I guess after about our third or fourth state, I started getting all these people trying to come in. That really didn’t have anything to do with it, so we had to privatize it. To try to minimize that.
But anyone is, as long as you’re willing to, you know, give a credit and, and work together as a group, we’re we would love to have you, and all you have to do is know somebody to get in or if you just message me. My name on Facebook is, uh, Doty Chandler, D-O-D-I-E-C-H-A-N-D-L-E-R, and I’ll be happy to put you in.
But the only reason we’re private is to try to keep, I think we had a lot of [00:09:00] hackers and you know, I don’t, I don’t know who those, the people that didn’t seem to be interested in, and, and I, I don’t want anyone to get hacked or anything by just being part of our project.
Amie–shadowdragn1: That makes sense. So they’ve changed how you can get adventure lab credits now, right?
Dodie: In the beginning, we didn’t have that option of getting them every 90 days, so we thought this would take years to accomplish. we’re all the way out in the Midwest. I mean, Indiana is our last East coast, state. So, um, Wisconsin is next. And then, um, the gentleman that did Route 66 and Lincoln Highway. Uh, in May he’s gonna be freed up enough to do California coming, coming in. So then hopefully we’ve got someone out there that can start working on the West Coast. It’s just networking. Okay. It’s really what it boils down to.
Amie–shadowdragn1: So [00:10:00] if somebody wants to participate, they can, um, go to the Adventure Lab builder and check and see if they have a credit, and if not, they can request one now and then join the Facebook group by either messaging you or being invited by somebody that they know.
Dodie: Right. Well, someone in there has to be an administrator.
Those are the only ways that you can be, be brought in. But someone will let us know that there’s someone trying to get in because they want to participate, in a state. And some people have told me, I don’t want to do. Like the last, uh, state was, I didn’t wanna do Missouri. I’m gonna wait until Indiana comes up. Okay. And, and we did Indiana. I mean, I don’t have a problem with that at all. Um, you know, if, if for some reason I, uh, didn’t you to let you know it, it was only over an oversight, not purposefully. So then you would just need to, you know. [00:11:00] Let me know because I, I post for everyone to see what we’re doing.
I try to communicate pretty good.
Amie–shadowdragn1: Do you only work on one state at a time?
Yeah, I’m not, I can’t do two and three at a time. It just, it gets, I think it gets too confusing for everybody. It’s hard enough just to get, ’cause normally we have anywhere from. I’m gonna say 25 to 38, and we, I think we had 40, I think Arkansas is 40. They, they were the largest so far. But on the average it’s about 35 to 40 lab credits to build, to build the art.
Do all of the labs that get placed have a requirement of having five points, or are there some that have less?
Dodie: We do, uh, five stages and they have to be non-sequential. They have to be, um, they have to be, when you build your credit, it to be about the state. Um, you know, [00:12:00] um, state symbols. I mean, just lots of people come up with some really unique ideas. And then the other thing is, is it has to be either multiple choice. True or false, or yes or no. You can’t, you can’t go in there and ask someone to read it or to do a Google search. It, everything has to be right there and then. And then on the front page, uh, we let everyone, everyone puts the sa not the same picture, but the same reading that it’s, you know, I’m just gonna say I 65 North.
Um, and you have to go within the interstate. within that rest area to open up the labs to make sure that we don’t have one sitting on the side of the interstate or anything.
We’ve, we’ve had a few bumps in the road and we just try to fix those as we go along, but everybody should have that on their front page.
Do you know how many states have been completed?
Dodie: I [00:13:00] do. Um, we’re over halfway. I think we’re close to 30 states now. So we’ve, we’ve moved along pretty good.
Amie–shadowdragn1: How can people find where these are at?
Dodie: Um, there’s a gentleman that has actually been posting in the Adventure Lab. He has built map of where those are at.
I don’t particularly remember his name. Uh, and I’m on my phone or I could look it up for you. Um, but if you go into the Adventure Lab, uh, on Facebook and search down through there, um, he posts it pretty frequently and he just. He’s great. He’s been adding each state as we bring him up and he’ll tell you if the works of dropping or if the whole art’s already done.
So that’s, that’s pretty good too. And even if
part of our 50 state, because there’s other arts out there, like Texas has just dropped a huge, uh, art, uh, I think [00:14:00] there’s over a hundred labs. That art, and it’s gonna be for Texas Challenge that’s gonna happen, uh, next month. And then like, California has an SD for San Diego, and then there is a California, but it’s not on the interstate system. And then, uh, Reno just built one in town in Reno. So it’s an R. So. Yeah, there’s different arts, different where, and I found out about that because he had built that map. I did not, I was not even aware. And then I just heard today that there is one gonna drop in Indiana, but it’s not gonna be on the interstate system.
It’s gonna be in Hammond, Indiana. And,
it’s, it’s supposed to drop Friday. That’s what I’ve been told. So I’m not really sure a hundred percent sure about that.
Amie–shadowdragn1: That’s really neat. That’s a lot of work to track all of those down.
Dodie: It is, and I’m, I’m thrilled and I, I, [00:15:00] I do need to reach out to him and tell him. I, I appreciate him doing that. Uh, now that we’re sitting here talking about it, I appreciate any help I can get. Trust me, it’s been a huge undertaking.
Amie–shadowdragn1: I bet it has been. That’s a lot of credits to find people willing to give and organize and points to sort out.
Dodie: Well, it really has just kind of fell, fell together. It’s kind of a dream come true for me. I never dreamed that we’d ever, I figured I’d be dead and gone by the time we got it all done. But I’m thinking that, that I might, I might make it all the way through all the 50 states.
amie–shadowdragn1: Hawaii’s gonna be an interesting one.
Dodie: It is. And, um, I don’t know, maybe we need to reach out to them before ’cause they’re gonna have a big mega event. Um, asked me about Hawaii and I’m not really sure. Mike, I, asked me about how we were gonna do Hawaii.
Amie–shadowdragn1: Yeah, there’s no interstate. They’ve gotta have a welcome center of some kind, I would [00:16:00] think near an airport or something.
Dodie: One in, uh, Honolulu, um, but I don’t know how big the parking area, I don’t remember. I’ve been to Hawaii, uh, but I don’t remember how big they may have to do one on each one of the islands.
I don’t know.
Would start off with Oahu first. And then the big island and then, uh, probably Maui. I don’t know how that would work after the fires. I don’t know. I guess I, I really try, I I try not to think too far, too far ahead. Like I wanted all of ’em across I 10 and then like I 20 going all the way across the coast, but. That’s okay. Everybody’s having fun. And maybe eventually that’ll be there and that’s, that’s okay.
Like when, you know, because, uh, ba orama was gonna happen. So I wish we’d had one on Florida going into Florida, but we had one Alabama and Mississippi. But, uh, the [00:17:00] gentleman that did Louisiana wanted to put his up in the middle of the state. But maybe eventually somebody will put one in the lower part. I survive this, maybe I’ll work on that. I don’t know.
Amie–shadowdragn1: So for the 50 states, are, are they all the same shape?
Dodie: Yeah, they’re usually just the first two initials of the, um, the state. Like, you know, Tennessee is, well, it’s tn, Florida was fl, Missouri was mo.
So yeah, it’s just. Just the, the abbreviation of the state.
And I guess we could do it smaller and build, you know, build different things. You could write it out a little bit more, but I think it would have to be a lot smaller because if you are using, you know, 35 to 40 credits just to do two letters, I think it would have to be a lot smaller.
Which it doesn’t matter where your art is. What matters is where your stages are. ‘ cause you have to keep [00:18:00] your stages within a 500 meter to be able to open them.
Amie–shadowdragn1: So similar to a mystery cache, the actual locations and the art pen can vary more.
Dodie: Yes. Yeah. I mean, you, it, it really doesn’t matter where your art is.
I mean, you could probably have it in another state, which you’re, but you’re not gonna want to. But we, you know, the art, uh, matter. It’s just the, the pens for the stages that are imperative.
And then when, when they drop, when when we go live, it’s a big day because. And I mean, I, listen, I’ve made plenty of mistakes.
I’ve given people, you know, like I inverted, a 35 and a 34 um, And we had a hard time figuring out what the problem was. And it was because I had, I had given them 30, uh, four instead of 35 part of their stage [00:19:00] coordinate was 34. So I messed that up. But it’s not hard mess up numbers for anybody.
Um. it’s a big day. The first thing we do is, you know, to try to get everybody to go live. And then, um, sometimes the art itself will be outta order. So we work on that first, and once we get that resolved, then we go look at the stages to make sure everybody’s stages are where they need to be. ’cause a couple times they’ve been over in Europe, so, uh Oh, wow. If you, if you put. East versus west sometimes that, that, that matters where your stages are. So, and we try.
A couple of times we’ve had that knew that art was gonna go live within that state, that rest area. They knew where it was gonna go and they were sitting there waiting for it to drop so they could do it. So, you know, it usually takes about a half a day and like today, I got. Things, but because we just went live yesterday with Missouri [00:20:00] and I got emails today with a couple other problems, uh, when people had opened up the lab, I guess there were some questions that relative to the state. I mean, usually hear back from people, if there’s a problem. It’s a pretty big community. Community and I, I think everybody tries to. I try to do what they can to make sure it, it’s, it’s good.
Amie–shadowdragn1: So as people get to pick their topics about their state, what are some of the topics that maybe surprised you or something that maybe you wouldn’t have thought of seeing?
Dodie: I think one that sticks out and I’m thinking that’s Louisiana, and I just thought this was so neat. It was, or maybe I, I don’t remember, but it was unusual places within the state. They truly were unusual places and they, and they’re on my list to go to now. and like Missouri, I thought it was great because somebody picked Clydesdale’s. completely, and I had just, I had just went to see the Clydesdales. It’s the second time I had seen them, so I got to talk to the people there this time, and I completely forgot that everything about the Clydesdales is in Missouri. [00:23:00] So I, you know, I think subjects like that are really neat. I just like, you know, there’s some people that do the same things, uh, but there’s some that’s just really unique.
And I remember, um, and this is one of my favorite natural wonders of your state,
learned so much because some of the ones that I have done for people, they’ll say, just pick something. one of the ones, because Indiana, I just picked for someone natural wonders of Indiana. And it’s just, I just think it’s really neat.
But I like stuff like that.
I like it when people kind of go out. Um, and there was one that was named, it was about the facts, but I forget something about I forget how it was named, but it was real neat how it was named. And we always try to make sure that, I mean, there’s no way I can go check to see if everybody’s, uh, stages are what they [00:24:00] say they are, but usually I hear about it if they’re not correct.
I just, it’s just the uniqueness that, that they come up with. but we always try to put, like Missouri in the title. So we can make sure that it stays, you know, Missouri driven or Tennessee driven, or whatever that state be.
Amie–shadowdragn1: So after people pick their topics, they’re responsible for going out and finding the information for, for that topic.
Dodie: And they, they build it. They, the only thing. we have a featured page and, uh, when we bring up a state, uh, on those featured pages. Is where you read to do your lab, but the feature page is what everybody needs to pay attention to because it’s built on however many labs there are.
Let’s just say Missouri was 38, 30, 36, I think. And um, put, um, mo o [00:25:00] uh oh one and then all the way down. And then as you gimme your theme, I put that in there. And then we don’t have duplicate themes. We can’t have duplicates. and then as you complete it, I post that it’s completed so everybody can see the progression as we go along. And I think that’s neat, especially the way they word them sometimes. Um. I think Missouri probably worded there is probably the best of any state I’ve seen so far.
Amie–shadowdragn1: You’ve mentioned the natural wonders. Is that kind of the favorite topic that you’ve been seeing?
Dodie: For me it is, because I never thought about natural wonders in, in each state. Uh, like there was, um. I am trying to think, I forget what the name of it it was. Um, it was like, it was a state park I think, and it was the rocks, the way they were [00:26:00] made. And like Kentucky, and this is one of my favorites is, I don’t know if anyone ever knew this, but there’s only a few meteor and these are just things that I’m interested in. There’s just a few meteor sites in the US and one Middlesboro Kentucky was formed by a massive meteor.
I live, I live right here close to Kentucky. I did not know that. And that’s the stuff that you learn as you go through. Maybe one day I’ll get to go get all the arts and then I’ll get to hear what everybody. Everybody did on theirs.
Amie–shadowdragn1: So some people out there just don’t like lab arts. You know, there’s some people that just don’t like certain types of caches. Everybody has their favorite type. Have you had any negative push back from people about putting all these adventure labs out there?
Dodie: I’m not a big Facebook person, so if they’re saying it, I don’t really know. I mean, I occasionally will get on and people will just say, [00:28:00] you know, it’s a way to embellish numbers or, um, you know, I mean, people say things, but you know, it’s, it’s a game for everybody. I think you should just do what you enjoy doing and that’s, that’s what this whole game’s all about Anyway. I never dreamed I would. Um, and there was a point that I just exclusively, I had decided that I was going to get all the lab caches in the state of Tennessee, and that was my, my goal. And I did only one time. I only accomplished that one time until more came up.
Amie–shadowdragn1: That’s a lot of lab caches.
Dodie: Well, this was before you, we were getting them every 90 days.
They were randomly hand. But, you know, I’d get home, but of course my daughter lived out in Memphis. so I traveled the state back and forth a lot. [00:29:00] So I would get home from Memphis and then a new one would drop in Memphis. But I would just have to get that on the next trip. ’cause that’s like six hours for me. It’s a long ways across Tennessee. But I’m sure there’s negative, you know, there’s good and bad to everything. So,
Amie–shadowdragn1: yeah, I don’t fully understand why people get so upset by that, I mean, I understand if you don’t like them and if not for, if it’s not for you, just don’t do them like power trails or micros or any other type of cash. If you don’t like doing that, then just don’t, I, I don’t understand why it has to ruin your day because other people are doing it.
Dodie: Right. I mean, I particularly, don’t want to do, and I did it one time. I did a multi cash that took us, like all day to do, which I’ll never do again. But uh, we were, you know, uh. We were at Ram Orama and there was an earth cache that we wanted to [00:30:00] get. were trying to clear out a whole area. And I bet you it had 30 way points, you know, and, and I’m sure some people enjoy that. I particularly did not want to spend all that time. I mean, if I didn’t have anything else to do, then that would be great, but I didn’t do it.
But, and that’s fine. I mean, I don’t, you know, that’s what they wanna do. That’s what they wanna do. It doesn’t affect me one way or the other. Right.
A game to, to relieve stress. Not to add stress. It’s a game to relax and have fun and build relationships with.
The only reason we’re set private is because we don’t want people in there that really don’t have anything to do with the lab art. um, again, you can reach me at it’s D-O-D-I-E-C-H-A-N-D-L-E-R, um, on Facebook and just reach out to me through Messenger we’ll be glad to. Put you in and [00:31:00] if there’s a particular state you wanna do, let me know. Um, we’ll do whatever we can to help and accommodate whatever we can.
And if, if anybody wants to be the ground person for a state, please let me know. Please. I’ll, I’ll bring you on first thing. I mean, I usually always build the, I build the arts and I usually keep the coordinates, but everything else, I try to leave the communication up to whomever’s on the ground if I can. And sometimes it takes a village.
Amie–shadowdragn1: Oh, for sure. It’s a lot of lab castes to put out there.
Dodie: It is. And for all of ’em to go live at one time, it, it, it, you usually have to clear your day.
But we do and, and we do push relatively hard when we’re trying to bring them up. because if not, we, we would never have gotten as far as we’ve gotten. So sometimes we do [00:32:00] push,
Amie–shadowdragn1: have you had issues with people forgetting to turn them to public?
Dodie: Uh, we, we have a couple of times and we had to replace one time because. Um, we did not know this person was ill they didn’t go live and they didn’t go live, so we finally, um, replaced them. We always have a few extra credits sitting back in case problems happen and, um, they, they, they had not communicated with us that we were sick. We were messaging them. We were trying everywhere in the world to get ahold of ’em. when they got, I think it was like three days later, two days, I don’t remember how long it was, but they did reach out and I think they were upset. Uh, and we tried to explain and they ended up giving us two more credits and we went right along and did just fine. I mean, you’re always gonna have bumps in the roads.
And [00:33:00] there has been some misunderstandings and, not intentional, um, hopefully. We can all get along and play well together. I mean, this is not supposed to be a, um, um, something Again, it’s not supposed to be stressful. Let, let, I, I feel most of the stress, most of the time. ,
Amie–shadowdragn1: what’s been the greatest challenge you’ve faced with this?
Dodie: um, communication messaging.
Try, I think the hardest part about it. Has been, um, keeping it straight how you’re communicating with a particular person. And if you’re not on Facebook, um, whoever’s gonna be on the ground has to agree that they have explicit communication with them. Like, uh, this last one, there was one gentleman, um, that the person didn’t want to be on [00:34:00] Facebook. But they wanted to participate and he had, but he knew that he had to explicitly be able to get that going. So that was up to him. And we don’t do that a lot. I mean, if I had 30 out of 40 of those, I’d probably never be able to keep that straight. But I keep, I’m retired healthcare worker, so I keep explicit notes. So as we’re doing these, that’s part of the reason. I keep all the coordinates and everything because along with those coordinates, I’m making a lot of notes about, you know, like let’s just say if you were on the ground these were your people, I would have you next to those people because I would know that those were your people instead of my people. that, does that make any sense at all? Yeah. it’s just trying
everybody straight. Knowing, like I’ll write down that I’m texting you or I have to message you or [00:35:00] explicitly just through Facebook. I prefer everybody. that’s the other thing, most of the people, um, and I would prefer everyone to be within our group because if I post your name on there, then you know that that’s yours, and we can always go back and we have to put your name, not your geocaching name. Because if I have to go back and search a coordinate or whoever that labs is, I can just search it up in the top and get to where I need to go instead of trying to scroll through years Facebook posts. So, and we had that happen on, on Missouri, so, um, we had, we had a couple that. uh, I have not had their name.
I would not have, I, I would’ve never found posted for ’em because I always, if something’s wrong, I, the first thing I go to is I must have given them a [00:36:00] wrong coordinate. that’s the first place I go to. And then, but, and sometimes that is, like I said, I had given a, a gentleman, I think, I don’t know if I gave him 34 or it should have been 35 or vice versa, but I gave him the wrong. Middle coordinates. So, and that, that was completely on me. And if I make a mistake, I’m, I’m sorry. It, it genuinely was not intentional and we usually get it straightened out pretty quick.
Amie–shadowdragn1: It sounds like good record keeping and communication is key to this sort of thing.
Dodie: I think that’s it.
I think that is the key for sure.
Amie–shadowdragn1: Well, that’s all the questions I had for today. Is there anything else you’d like to mention that maybe we didn’t talk about?
Dodie: Not that, not that I can think of. Um, hope everybody’s enjoying them and I hope, and if, like I said, if anybody wants to be part, [00:37:00] come on. We’re all playing, we’re all having fun and playing well together.
Amie–shadowdragn1: Well, thank you so much for joining me today and talking to me about the 50 state, uh, lab cash art. I really appreciate taking the time.
Dodie: Well, it’s my pleasure and thank you for, uh, helping me get it out there and keeping it, keeping it alive and well until we can get all these done.
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